Ratiocinator MDB Reply.
To ‘you are a twat’ (what an appropriate choice of a name for yourself):

The MDB guestbook is the right place for my initial post as I was a guest on this site. It is within the guestbook that site guests leave comments. Comments pertinent to MDB and to their site. It is a shame that you are so stupid I had to spell that out for you.

Only after some other moronic piece of cunt discharge posted a puerile and highly ignorant ‘retort’ did I decide to post here again as to post elsewhere regarding a ‘discussion’ based here, would be foolish.

I notice you are quick to write me off as being ‘criminally self-righteous’! Nice of you to be so open-minded and not too quick to place me into a pre-existing category! – Especially one in which I do not fit. Your feeble mind may be too inept to decipher the trueness of actuality, but it would seem that the real ‘twattery’ and self-righteousness displayed here is begotten of your own undeveloped cerebrum. Or maybe it is the case that saturated fats and cholesterol from your poisonous diet have caused you some blood flow problems resulting in your inability to think properly.

Regarding your rather unfortunate and ill-thought chickens comment: I will tell you where the ‘world’ would be if ‘he’ (and all others) stopped eating them (and other sentient creatures). The world would become a more compassionate place, there would be less suffering, less pain, more thoughtfulness, less violence, human diets would improve as unhealthy food was removed from them, the environment and biosphere would suffer less as producing animal and avian derived foods is highly polluting and extremely inefficient (grain and other crops need to be grown first in order to feed the animals, or course).

That was merely a summing-up of such a scenario. Here is a link with a few interesting facts for you, or are you blind to facts?: http://www.sumeria.net/anim/reality.html (From 1989, but it does not take a genius to work out how much worse the situation is now).

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To ‘Littlerose’: PART 1.


Further to the above; whom am I pissing off? My original post here was valid and irrefutable. You perceive that as a ‘piss-off’? It would seem the response I have had back from it, from those to whom it was not even addressed, that seek to ‘fight’ me and ‘piss me off’.

Your comment about it being ‘my choice’ to be vegetarian (I am vegan actually as I am not a hypocrite) suggests a high degree of hypocrisy on your part. What you are saying is: It is my choice not to kill, rape, enslave and abusively exploit animals and birds (etc.). Seems I made the right choice (and not least for my own health). Do the animals and birds get to choose? No, I do not think they do. They do not choose to be born into a life of pain and they certainly do not choose to be killed under extremely brutal conditions. So where is their fucking freedom? Think before you write, or does it hurt too much?

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To 'Littlerose' PART 2.

Designed to be carnivores? What the fuck does that mean? Are you a Christian into creationism? Designed? Some supernatural designed us? Wow! Interesting!

More to the point, if we were in fact ‘designed?to be carnivores, as you say, then the ‘designer?did not do a very good job. Meat and other animal products are carcinogenic. They are high in saturated fats and cholesterol that block human arteries, meat is very hard to digest, it promotes the production of strong stomach acids, it sits in the gut for a very long time rotting away instead of being digested (plants are easily digested by humans). It is poison to the human body. Here are a couple of links with a little more information on it, just for you: http://freethought.homestead.com/Health.html http://www.vibrancy.homestead.com/dangersmeat.html

Big mouths like me, without a brain!! Oh man, the irony! And what do you mean by ‘what do you know about Andy’s life? I was directly quoting from his fucking biography entry! You incredible moron! Do I go around telling people how to live their lives? Err; remind me of such an instance? And again, to point out your hypocrisy: He (Andy) and many others, I guess you included, go ‘around?forcing animals and chickens how to ‘live their lives? Really, are you so stupid you are blind to that?

I see; I should stop spending the odd few minutes here and there browsing band sites and I should help to ‘stop people dying of starvation?! It is quite clear that you are racist. You value your own race (humanity) as being somehow worthy of the deliberate and wholly unnecessary suffering of all other creatures? Holy shit! Listen to yourself. What you are falsely accusing me of, you are in actual fact guilty of yourself. You are a complete self-righteous, arrogant hypocrite. You are utterly ignorant and so far up your own putrid arse hole you fail to see that.

Here is an excerpt from one of the links I posted. If this does not shut you the fuck up then I can only hope that you are soon killed:





> Number of people who will starve to death this year: 60,000,000



> Number of people who could be adequately fed by the grain saved if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10%: 60,000,000



To say ‘I hate inconsideration’ and ‘I like to eat Chickens’ at the same time is in fact a contradiction. Because it is not exactly being ‘considerate’ to Chickens is it? But, as you say, English is not your first language.

I write of facts (real suffering that animals and birds endure, disadvantages to human health, etc.). These are irrefutable. Do not miss-read what I write. Do not project your own bullshit onto the screen in front of you. Wise-up, don’t be a moron.

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To ‘Littlerose’: PART 3.

This entire affair resulted directly from idiotic fools who misconstrued my motives and my intentions in posting a message in the guestbook. As I said previously: My message was based directly on the information provided on the MDB site, and my opinion (and factual finding) of the provided information.

Cut out the utterly bullshit and moronic crap about plants, and how it is cruel to eat them. Do you realise that plants do not have a central nervous system? That they do not have a brain? – No brain, no pain. I would have thought that you would be aware of such a thing. Anyway, we have to eat food in order to survive. Plant based diets is the least harm option.


And do you realise that animals are fed plants?


Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce 1 pound of feedlot beef: 16
Pounds of protein fed to chickens to produce 1 pound of protein as chicken flesh: 5 pounds
Pounds of protein fed to hogs to produce 1 pound of protein as hog flesh: 7.5 pounds


So, if you care for plants, then you must be vegan, as far fewer plants are produced for the vegan diet!

Don’t you fucking dare accuse me of bossing anyone around. You are doing all that. Do not be so stupid as to take out of context what I posted. You see what your irascible psyche wants you to see written, not what actually is written. Deal with it.

By the way, if people do want top eat Chickens, it often means that either directly or (because most people are cowards and like to turn a blind eye to reality) indirectly the Chickens are killed deliberately for that purpose. That is murder. The Chickens were forcefully killed.

You dare to say that I am making a fool of myself with my ‘big words’! – You even admitted that English was not your first language! More to the point, you are making a fool of yourself with your blatant and unashamed display of ignorance, stupidity and hypocrisy. Does MDB make fools of themselves with their ‘big words’? Think before your write.

Am I judging people only because they eat meat? My what assumptions you make. Your imagination is highly active and highly unfortunate. Your perceptions are highly erroneous. I am afraid that you are somewhat divorced from reality. Shame really.

Again: Did I treat Andy like shit? Your opinion is shit. Look back to my original post, you will find that what I wrote is accurate. If accuracy is in itself cause enough in your eyes for Andy to be treated as shit, then maybe he should consider changing his reality. You use the word ‘freedom’ a lot. What about the freedom of Chickens? Do you give a fuck about them, or does your racism prevent such consideration?

No, I did not post merely to attract attention, as you suggest. Only as much as anybody else seeks to attract by posting there anyway. And it does not take very much for you to call me an extremist! Well, reality and the truth is extreme I suppose. And so is your proclivity for melodrama.

News flash: I was vegetarian since birth (my parents are not), and then later became vegan. I naturally rejected most foods, even when I did not know what they were. A new lesson is learnt every day, don’t you agree?

Drop the bullshit about teeth. Only idiots, ignoramuses and morons use that bullshit. Compare your teeth to those of a lion. Compare them with those of a chimpanzee. Our teeth are better evolved for raw plants than raw meat. As meat eating creatures, human teeth are evidence of no such thing. You should examine the compatibility of the human digestive system regarding how it deals with meat (as I wrote of previously), not teeth. The digestive system is far more important. It does not cope well with meat at all, unlike plants.

Do some research before you decide to post crap on public web pages.